Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 06:40:20 PST From: The Info-Mac Moderators Reply-To: Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #13 To: info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Tue, 14 Jan 97 Volume 15 : Issue 13 Today's Topics: [*] TidBITS#361/13-Jan-97 [Q] Can't shutdown my Mac! Is it alive?? [Q] Connecting a PC to my apple Color Stylewriter 1500 [Q] Installing 2nd internal IDE drive on a Perf. 6205? Anyone Got "DAVE" Experiences? Can't use ImageWriter connecting 'PC' printer to Mac connecting 'PC' printer to Mac [A] Gopher Sites HP Printer Info-Mac Digest V15 #11 Init String for Megahertz CruiseCard Modem Q: Where is that web site?! Virtual Memory The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of: Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan The Info-Mac Archive is available at 50 public and private sites around the world. 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Topics: MailBITS/13-Jan-97 About the Show: Macworld Expo San Francisco Keying in Great NeXTpectations Macworld Expo Superlatives/Jan-97 [Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-361.etx; 30K] -- Geoff Duncan InterText Assistant Editor, geoff@intertext.com geoff@quibble.com TidBITS Managing Editor, geoff@tidbits.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 05:23:15 -0200 From: Josmar Arruda Subject: [Q] Can't shutdown my Mac! Is it alive?? Hi all, I ever thought that my Macintosh had a bit of human intelligence. Sometimes, it (or he? ;-) seems to take decisions by it(him)self. But since last week, my Mac IIci seems to want get to life: about three seconds after I shutdown it, it turns on again! The only way to keep it turned off is pulling off the powercord from the power supply. I know that we can set the Mac to auto-startup in case of power failure using the Energy Saver CPanel. But this CPanel isn't installed in my Mac (anyway, this feature doesn't work when the user selects "Shut Down" from the Special menu). Should it be a problem with the power key of my keyboard? Or will I have to send the Mac to the hospital? Please, if anyone ever had such kind of problem, email me! Thanks, Josmar Arruda josmar@techs.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:13:28 -0700 From: Pretoris@cris.com Subject: [Q] Connecting a PC to my apple Color Stylewriter 1500 I've got both a PPC 7500/100 and a Pentium 133 that I need to hook up to my Stylewriter 1500. How would I go about doing that? The Stylewriter only has a Mac-style serial port and the pc has a SCSI looking port for the printer. Cheers, Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:55:08 +0100 From: Christian F Buser Subject: [Q] Installing 2nd internal IDE drive on a Perf. 6205? Martin Jourdan wrote > >No. The Apple IDE interface is a bit crippled and can support only >one drive. > > > I don't believe this is an Apple problem. As far as I know, IDE > has always been limited to 1 drive - regardless of the platform. No. At least on PCs I can have 2 IDE drives per machine on the same connector. You just need to set one drive as "master", and the other as "slave". In the PC world, the "master" drive usually is drive C:. But in fact, I have heard also that Apple's implementation of IDE does NOT allow 2 drives (no need so far to check it myself) Best wishes, Christian. cbuser@access.ch -- http://www.access.ch/mus/members/cbuser ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 22:09:04 EST From: Allan Hunter Subject: Anyone Got "DAVE" Experiences? Anyone out there have experience with a new cross-platform networking software that goes by the unlikely moniker of "DAVE"? http://www.thursby.com This is apparently NetBEUI for the Mac, something I've always wanted; it is Mac software, not PC software (i.e., you don't have to explain to the PC users who could care less about you getting your Mac onto the network why you want to install software on their machines) and apparently when you're runnning it you can mount shared PC volumes on your desktop via the Chooser, open files located on PCs, copy and rename and delete, etc., depending on the privileges the PC user sets. Also vice versa--you can apparently join the network and share your own volumes. Apparently it does all this NOT by really running Net- BEUI protocols directly but instead uses TCP/IP, at which point I admit I'm confused and in over my insufficiently geeky head, although from the way they brag about it, this is apparently a cool thing. (That TCP/IP is cool, I grasp; but if the goal is to provide the networking capabilities necessary for NetBEUI networking, how does TCP/IP...oh never mind). To get to the point, I want access to the shared FileMaker Pro database in our office, which is on a PC running Windows for Workgroups 311. (NetBEUI, in other words). I've already hit the frustration wall with SoftWindows 1.0's inability to allow concurrent file sharing ("non- standard implementation of Windows for Workgroups networking", says Claris), cheap surplus/used Apple 61xx-series DOS cards' non-support for NetBEUI, the inability of my little 6116 to cope with SoftWindows 3.0 with adequate responsiveness (quicksand) although this later version unlike version 1.0 does do NetBEUI right, and the non-standard imple- mentation of AppleTalk under Personal MacLan Connect, which according to Claris would ALSO not fix my problems, would ALSO not allow concur- rent cross-platform file sharing. I was on the verge of shelling out for a Reply DOS card + upgrade, which (in its upgraded configuration) DOES support NetBEUI, when I ran across information on this DAVE thing. In many ways it would be so much more elegant to do all my cross-platform networking, including concurrent file sharing, without having to go slumming through the interface ghetto of Microsoft OSville! But...will this DAVE thing support cross-platform concurrent FileMaker Pro database file sharing? Neither Claris nor the Thursby Systems folks (creators of DAVE) have replied to this ques- tion. I do know that FileMaker 3.0 supports TCP/IP networking protocols, which is encouraging (even though we're using FileMaker 2.1, I can twist the boss's arm on the upgrade path); and my Windows-experienced advisors say a TCP/IP protocol stack is available for Win-311 (my Mac of course has TCP/IP via Apple). Aside from the FileMaker question (the main issue) I'm interested in anything that users of DAVE have to say about stability and reliability. -Allan Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:29:42 -0500 (EST) From: Art Werschulz Subject: Can't use ImageWriter Hi. I have a Performa 5200, on which I have recently done the following: (1) Upgraded my modem. (2) Installed OpenTransport 1.1.2, including OpenTransport PPP 1.0. OT is working fine. I generally use a LaserWriter Select 360, but I occasionally need to use my old ImageWriter (for making banners, etc.). For some reason, I am having trouble getting the Chooser to make the switch. To wit: I open the Chooser, select the ImageWriter, turn off AppleTalk, and select the printer port. (Note: I have tried various permutations of the last three operations.) For some reason, the printer port refuses to be selected; the modem port remains selected. When I try to print anything, I hear some modem sounds. If I restart using a minimal set of extensions (say, only the ImageWriter and ATM extensions), everything is OK. Suggestions? I can probably live with this, since I use the ImageWriter only on occasion, but it's inelegant, to say the least. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:00:51 +0100 From: "Anneke M.Th. Harbers and Ard Jonker" Subject: connecting 'PC' printer to Mac >The printer works fine connected to her PC (via a splitter box - the Mac >replaces the 2nd PC). I downloaded what seems to be the right driver from >HP's web site, I bought a Mac serial cable which (outwardly) connects fine >between the 25-pin splitter box connector and the printer port of the Mac. > >But no amount of fiddling around has so much as made the printer go 'blip'. >The driver seems to think I need AppleTalk to be active - is that the case? >(I've only ever used a StyleWriter II). Even turning it on, though, did >not solve anything. The HP3 is NOT postscript enabled, if that matters >here. Two catches in general: if you are using the serial port, do check the laserprinter's baud rate setting, perhaps you need to locate the dip switches (yuck). That cost me two hours to fix (not my printer). Next, check the cable. Maybe what you have is not what you need. Consult 'Loeten am Mac', the program that hols all the hardware info for this problem. You have a cable that does mac pc 2 - 20 3 - 3 4 - 1 5 - 2 4,8 - 7,1 hint: mac pc printer (25 pin serial cable) 2 - 20 3 - 3 4 - 7 5 - 2 4+5+6+8 4+8 That is, connect the pins of the last 2 sets amongst themselves (not the two sets with each other!) only on the pc side resp mac side. Finally, you will want to use Chuck's printer driver rather than the HP driver, for that matter. Although 'Loeten Am Mac' suggests that laserprinters can be used with Apple's drivers, as long as you are using a serial cable. ard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:43:05 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Russell Subject: connecting 'PC' printer to Mac [A] Unfortunately, the situation is worse than you think... Talking to an HP LaserJet III is easy if you solve two problems: (1) Convert the Mac serial port output into a form that can be understood by the printer's PC parallel port, and (2) Use a driver that can translate Mac Quickdraw output to HP PCL and send it to the printer. Since the HP Laserjet III is not Postscript-capable, the Laserwriter driver (and, in fact, any of the standard printer drivers) is useless. Since the HP uses a parallel port, the Mac serial cable is useless. What you need is Powerprint, by GDT Softworks. They give you all the hardware and software you need to talk to hundreds of PC printers, including the entire Laserjet line. http://www.gdt.com/ Fortunately, their products are carried by most Mac mail-order houses. It will cost you $130 or so, though. Rick R. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:30:38 -0500 From: edverhoef@nmaa.org (Edward Ver Hoef) Subject: Gopher Sites In the process of updating from Netscape 2 to Netscape 3 I managed to lose some of my bookmarks, the most crucial of which was some gopher sites I used for downloading software from the info-mac archives. Can anyone help me by giving me the address of the gophers at the U. of Minn and at Washington University in St Louis? Probably the most efficient use of bandwidth would be a simple e-mail to me at the above address. TIA. Ed Ver Hoef ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:51:39 -0600 (CST) From: Nicholas Miller Subject: HP Printer >X-Sender: rgd@mail.interlog.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:44:56 -0500 >To: Nicholas Miller >From: Robert George Daniel >Subject: Re: HP Printer > >Nicholas - > >Thanks for your thoughtful (and thorough!) reply to my query posted on >Info-Mac. I think you have hit the nail on the head - the Mac is indeed >connected (via the splitter) to the parallel port of the HPIII, but there >is also a serial port available. If the cable I have going to the splitter >from the MAC can go directly to the printer, then we should be in business >(I hope!) > >Thanks again - I may take you up on your offer of additional help, but I am >hopeful that this should do the trick! > >Bob. > > > >At 8:25 PM -0500 1/12/97, Nicholas Miller wrote: >> Bob, >> >>I have done this several times and it has several quirks that can be >>gottcha's. The first is the port on which the thing is connected. >>Usually, when it is connected to a PC, the HPIII is connected as a parallel >>printer. No amount of fiddling around will ever make the macs serial port >>talk to the parrallel port. If it is running through a switchbox, the >>serial cable will attach to the 25 pin port. but will not talk to it. If >>you have the PC configured as a serial printer. then your wiring is >>probably correct and you need to set the mac to talk with the same >>settings. When you configure your HP driver, there is a place to set the >>port speed etc. These settings must match the settings that the printer >>and the PC are using. If they don't, then you cannot talk. >> >>I think that probably you are mixing your ports (serial to parallel) and if >>so there are a couple of different ways to attack the problem, either you >>change the mac serial output to parrallel (using a commercial product that >>costs about $100) or you connect to the printer's serial port. The HPIIIs >>that I have come across have all had a 25 pin serial port on the back. >>Since you now have each computer connected to a different port you no >>longer need the switch box. The problem is that the HPIII is not smart >>enough to switch between the input from the PC and the serial input from >>the MAC. (The HPIV does this quite nicely, but that doesn't help you much) >>You have to tell the printer through the control panel, which port it is >>using and what setting's to use. These must also be set in the printer >>driver on the mac to match the ones on the printer. I do not have a >>printer here at home but if you need help I could look up the exact >>settings by walking through them on an HPIII at work. I think the 7100/66 >>should talk through the serial port about as fast as the HPIII can accept >>data, so it really doesn't matter what speed you set, as long as it is the >>same on both ends. Good Luck, and mail me back if you have more specific >>questions. >> >>Nick Miller >>nickm@niia.net >> >>Nicholas Miller >>Computer Specialist >>Defense Contract Management District West >>Defense Logistics Agency > > >-- >Bob Daniel, Toronto > > Nicholas Miller Computer Specialist Defense Contract Management District West Defense Logistics Agency ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:52:20 -0800 From: maddeng@mail.apple.com (gary madden) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #11 Anybody having as much problems with their Macs when running Netscape? I have my Macs freeze or get type 11 errors. I'm running Navigator 2.0 with system 7.5(update 2.0) on two different Macs (a PowerMac 8500 and an old but upgraded IIci). I should have sufficient DRAM at 20MB (IIci) and 32MB (8500). Should I be usding a shareware utility like "Cache Be Gone" to make sure the cache is cleaned up? Gary Madden, maddeng@apple.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:50:44 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Rodman Subject: Init String for Megahertz CruiseCard Modem Has anyone had success using a Megahertz XJA3288 CruiseCard modem (PC card modem for Powerbooks) with FreePPP and Open Transport? I just can't seem to get the initialisation string right. I get very haphazard performance, far below what one would expect. I suspect there are either a lot of "retries" going on, or major line speed renegotiation. I'd appreciate some kind soul who's getting 28.8K out of the beast giving me their initialisation string. Megahertz tech support has not been forthcoming... Paul Rodman iLanga, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:02:03 +0800 From: Steven Luh Subject: Q: Where is that web site?! Hi folks, A while back I was in the market for a joystick (man wasn't born to fly so I amend that with flight sims) and I checked with various sources on the web for information on the subject (Lycos, Yahoo, MacUser/MacWorld, MacWeek, and various other search engines). I started off by searching for a joystick from CH Products called Flightstick Pro and somehow stumbled onto a site that showed me a survey of various Web/Net vendors and their prices for this particular joystick! I thought that this was an extremely useful site and wrote down the address for a later date. Well guess what, now that I'm ready to go back and check the prices again, I lost the site address! Can anyone point me to this site? I've tried again today for over 2 hours but to no avail. TIA! Steven ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:43:58 +0000 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_Brostr=F6m?=" Subject: Virtual Memory > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:06:10 +1100 > From: Bill Stanford > Subject: Virtual Memory > >I am shocked! Do you mean to say that I get a performance GAIN by turning > >on VM? In what way? My Performa 6400/180 gets slower when I turn on VM. IS > >this then another problem with my mac? (I was a PC-user only last year... > >8) > > > >BTW. Is there any software out there that can help me "streamline" my mac? > >I'v fallen for the all too easy "just drop it on the system folder" and my > >computer crawls at times. (Not to mention that the whole system halts when > >the ppp-connection is established, printing is halted when applications > >start, fonts need to be supplied in two formats (screen and printer), etc, > >etc.) Don't get me wrong. I like the mac, but when is a REAL OS due? > > Michael, I'd have agreed with you here: Chaz is certainly right about the > memory gains of VM, but like yourself I'd gauge my PPC PB540 to take a hit, > albeit a small one under 7.5.5, with VM on at (say) 1M extra. Though Chaz > is probably thinking of something I'm missing, he often does! > > The essential enhancer for a PPC is SpeedDoubler, was at 1.3.1 and is just > now released at version 2. Using SpeedEmulator and SpeedAccess out of > this package would certainly speed your 6400. Trouble is of course, these > things do take a bite out of System heap... SpeedDoubler? Sounds fine. I'd much rather invest a few bucks in more RAM and get some zip into my system than be cheap and use VM. Is this a commercial package or shareware? > > Glad you could see through the OS hype enough to get a Mac. Ahem (blush), it's actually my second Mac and I only bought it because the people who pay me decided I had to have one if I wanted their business... 8) I'll admit that I now like it so much I just gave it a new 20" screen, a new graphic controller (ATI Xclaim) and a bonus 14" Apple Trinitron in stead of the rotten 1705. Which brings me to another question: Does anyone out there agree that the 1705 is a piece of crap? I took it back to have it repaired due to the "fuzziness" and they told me that was the normal performance... 8( > But what do > you really mean by "REAL"? If you want that there's one of the UN*X > versions, or NT or OS/2 on some other platform. I'd still sooner have ease > of set up and use than protected memory, though I agree preemptive > multitasking would be nice... And Native would be even nicer! That's my only REAL beef with MacOS. It's too darn slow with more than one app running when you want to switch back and forth. I'd much rather take the Win95-bugs than wait fuming while my Mac imitates a modem through the GeoPort. > > But if Apple can get through the rather dreadful hazards of the next 18 > months, we'll get these, and a real OS in contemporary terms... And if > Apple doesn't, everyone, everywhere, who uses a computer will be much > poorer for it! And again I agree. Even Bill Gates dreads Apple losing out. Remember that competition makes for more inventiveness and better quality. Monopoly is only fun if you're playing the game! Best regards Michael Brostrom, Sr Editor. Oh, BTW, Info-mac is probably the one thing I'd least like to loose if I decide to drop the Apple platform. Keep up the good work! Redaktoer, TEKNO +46-708-95 47 37 "A bad day at the golf +46-35-15 74 85 course is better than +46-35-10 52 85 (fax) a good day at work!" -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************