Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #279 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Wed, 17 Dec 97 Volume 15 : Issue 279 Today's Topics: (Q) Sound Manager 3.1 before System 7.5 [Q] A/UX: Where, What and How? Answer Boot Disk Problem Application won't quit Bootable floppies for MacOS 8? Connecting laptop PC to Localtalk network - summary Desktop pattern to Picture? Desktop pattern to Picture? Desktop pattern to Picture? Eudora/ two email accounts Looking for Twain? Norton/TechTools Shreve Systems Some G3 questions The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. For more information, visit the Info-Mac Web site at . 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Or, click . * A full list of Info-Mac mirror sites is available at the URL below: * Search the archive at . Info-Mac volunteers include Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan, Michael Bean, and Liam Breck. The Info-Mac Digest is sponsored in part by StarNine Technologies, developers of Internet server software for the Macintosh, including Web and email publishing systems. We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V15 #279" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 00:07:40 +0200 From: Eduardo Ubide <325673@cepsz.unizar.es> Subject: (Q) Sound Manager 3.1 before System 7.5 Hi, I have got a problem. I would like to find the Sound Manager 3.1 to run some apps. My very old mac has a Spanish Version with System 7.1 and an apple's extension providing a SoundM 3.0 (english). Could I obtain an updated version? If so, Where? Thanks in advance. Eduardo Ubide ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:49:59 +0100 From: "Gregory M. Gabriel" Subject: [Q] A/UX: Where, What and How? Hello, I wondered if anyone out there knows or has experience with the rather obscure A/UX. Essentially my questions would be: - What is A/UX? Is it an OS of its own or an underlying 'layer' which enables to run UNIX processes? - Where can it be obtained? - What does it require? Also, any information about running UNIX on a Mac would be extremely appreciated. Gregory Gabriel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 97 11:45:47 -0000 From: shorton@lr.net (Scott L. Horton) Subject: Answer Boot Disk Problem Thank you info-mac readers and especially E.R. who correctly diagnosed and solved my problem with a 6GB external hard disk not working as a boot disk on a 68LC040 Mac (Performa 476). The older Apple ROM chips that are on the motherboard cannot recognize such a large volume for startup even though MacOS8 has no problem using the drive as a 6GB volume. I created a 2GB bootable partition, installed the MacOS8 software and viola, it works without any trouble at all. So much for the general consenses of Apple, Quantum, and FWB tech support that the drive was too fast for the older Mac to use as a startup disk. Thanks again, Scott Horton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:31:30 -0800 From: Paul Goracke Subject: Application won't quit >Have been using a Motorola StarMax PowerPC for the last year. Utilizing >System 7.6. The problem I am describing below did not start happening >until about 3 months ago. I had installed nothing new, it just sort of >began. > >About every other (not exactly, but about every other) time I shut down, >my shut-down folder items perform as they should, but then I get a >dialog box which says "Cannot complete shutdown - unknown application >will not quit". > >I check under the finder, and the finder is the only thing loaded. No >applications are open. > >Does not do this without extensions loaded. Microsoft Office Manager, most likely. Either download and install an update from their site, or (preferably, imho) disable it. pg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:40:02 -0500 From: Marlon Deason Subject: Bootable floppies for MacOS 8? I am currently enjoying MacOS 8 on a PowerBook 5300. I have found it incredibly stable. Even so, I do travel and accidents do inevitably happen. I don't always carry a portable CDROM drive, so I would like to make a bootable MacOS 8 system floppy. Can anybody help me out? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 07:32:00 +0000 From: "Chris Reed, BBR" Subject: Connecting laptop PC to Localtalk network - summary In Info-Mac Digest V15 #264 I enquired: >I have a 486 laptop PC that I'd like to connect to my Macintosh Localtalk >network. > >I've heard about products (but don't know any names) that will simply >connect via the parallel or serial ports (rather than requiring the >addition of an expansion card), and will network at a DOS level rather than >at a Windows level. Thanks to Andrew Minuhin who suggested connecting by Ethernet, and abrody1@mail.ameritel.net who suggested DataViz MacLinkPlusPC 9.7 (http://www.dataviz.com), Farallon's Timbuktu, and Banyan System's Vines. However, further rummaging on the search engines brought me to _exactly_ the product I was thinking of, the PCTalk Personal MACLAN Kit by Apexx Technology Inc, which makes a PC behave just like any other Mac on a Localtalk network: http://www.apexxtech.com/html/maclan.html According to their website, "it snaps onto your PC's parallel port to give you the same LocalTalk connection that is built-in to all Macintosh computers, and provides full 32-bit peer-to-peer networking between PCs and Macs, whether you're using Windows 3.1, Windows for Workgroups, or Windows 95. No additional software or hardware is required on your Macs and AppleTalk printers. Windows and Mac users can share Apple LaserWriters, HP DeskWriters, and other AppleTalk printers wherever they are on the network, and share files, data, and CD-ROM drives both PC-to-Mac and Mac-to-PC." Their sales office responded to my enquiry promptly and courteously, and quoted me a price of $299.99 plus shipping; I expect to make a purchase as soon as I've tied down the price in the UK. Happy holidays! Chris Reed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 05:05:42 -0800 From: Daly Jessup Subject: Desktop pattern to Picture? Karen Wheless asked: >Is there an easy way to convert a desktop pattern to a PICT file that could >be used for a desktop picture? If you just cut and paste from the Desktop >Pictures application, the PICT is too small to be used as a picture (unless >you paste it over and over). I'd like to include some of my patterns when >I use an applescript to periodically change my desktop picture. I just did this, and it worked perfectly: Open the Desktop Pictures control panel and find the pattern that you want to use and just drag it from the patterns display in the control panel to your desktop. It will turn into a picture clipping. Then you can switch to the Desktop pictures (versus Patterns) part of the control panel and Remove the current picture then Select picture - point it to the clipping you just dragged to the desktop. Then if it's too small, just use the menu on the control panel (the one that by default says "Position Automatically") and tell it to fill the screen. I hope that is what you were asking!? Daly Daly Jessup mailto:jessup@san.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 05:05:42 -0800 From: Daly Jessup Subject: Desktop pattern to Picture? Karen Wheless asked: >Is there an easy way to convert a desktop pattern to a PICT file that could >be used for a desktop picture? If you just cut and paste from the Desktop >Pictures application, the PICT is too small to be used as a picture (unless >you paste it over and over). I'd like to include some of my patterns when >I use an applescript to periodically change my desktop picture. I just did this, and it worked perfectly: Open the Desktop Pictures control panel and find the pattern that you want to use and just drag it from the patterns display in the control panel to your desktop. It will turn into a picture clipping. Then you can switch to the Desktop pictures (versus Patterns) part of the control panel and Remove the current picture then Select picture - point it to the clipping you just dragged to the desktop. Then if it's too small, just use the menu on the control panel (the one that by default says "Position Automatically") and tell it to fill the screen. I hope that is what you were asking!? Daly Daly Jessup mailto:jessup@san.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:55:38 -0600 (CST) From: Chaz Larson Subject: Desktop pattern to Picture? At 11:56 PM -0500 12/14/97, Karen Wheless wrote: >Is there an easy way to convert a desktop pattern to a PICT file that could >be used for a desktop picture? One method would be to set your desktop to that pattern, pile all your icons up in one corner of the screen, and do a screen capture [cmd-shift-3]. You could then edit that screen capture in your graphics program to eliminate the pile of icons and menu bar. chazl - 12.16.1997 - chaz@visi.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 09:34:01 +0100 (MET) From: Paolo Bartoli Subject: Eudora/ two email accounts I remember sometime ago on the list talks about how to manage two different accounts with Eudora ( rel. 3.1). Since for a short time I'll have two email accounts from two different ISPs, how can I manage 'em ? I'd like to keep reading mail from the old email address too... ** Arch. Paolo Bartoli pbartoli@iname.com (bpxmb@tin.it)** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:04:27 -0500 From: loppen@tiac.net (L.&M.Oppenheimer) Subject: Looking for Twain? Doug Andreson wrote in IM 15-270: >> I've just got a new Scanner (Astra 1200s). I would like to use the >> (Twain) part of it. In my Preferences Folder I have a Twain Folder >> with The Source Manager for Twain. I am told that I also need to >> have The TWAIN Data source files that come with a >> TWAIN-compatible device. I have to think that the Astra 1200s >> is Twain-compatible, but I can't find any TWAIN Data source files >> on the CD that came with the Scanner. >> >> Can some one tell me where or how I can get this (These) files? and >> maybe a short word on how to use them. We also recently bought a U-MAX scanner which we wanted to use with the TWAIN interface. The box was clearly marked that the device was TWAIN compatable and some TWAIN software was installed on our hard drive by the disk that came with the scanner. But, it wouldn't work. After several phone calls to U-MAX, and a lot of time on hold, someone finally told us that the TWAIN interface does not work with their scanner and a Macintosh (only with a PC). Nice, huh? If anyone has information to the contrary, I'd sure like to hear it. Larry Oppenheimer (loppen@tiac.net) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:16:58 -0500 From: chazzz Subject: Norton/TechTools Actually, no. TechTool is a diagnostic program only. Norton is a diagnostic AND repair program. Don't rule out Disk Essentials at . This is the ONLY competition for Norton and a pretty good program. In fact, it digs a little deeper than Norton and does a better job ferreting out and repairing trouble -- It's Easy to setup; It's Easy to use; It's Easy to personalize It's, It's, It's NOT WINDOZE! Mac OS 8 - Get It! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:01:43 -0500 From: chazzz Subject: Shreve Systems The News Groups and Digest lists are repleat with caveats regarding this company. They have been accused of not honoring their promises and keeping money when improper items are sent to consumers. This place is one which Mac users want to avoid like the plague -- It's Easy to setup; It's Easy to use; It's Easy to personalize It's, It's, It's NOT WINDOZE! Mac OS 8 - Get It! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:15:46 -0500 From: Allan Hunter Subject: Some G3 questions I am currently feeling so optimistic about the prospects for being rehired soon at a nice salary that I am drooling over those G3 Mac ads, although I have no real performance complaints concerning my venerable 7100. Question 1) Can you boot system 7.6.1 on a G3, or does it insist on MacOS 8? (I know what you're probably wondering, and the answer is "PopupFolder". I will never voluntarily own or use a computer that cannot use PopupFolder. Tell me no tales of FinderPop or other such alleged replacements. They are as Windows 3.1 is to the Mac operating system). Question 2) They come with 32MB, stock, and apparently have 3 of those SDRAM slots (are they still called DIMM slots?). Are the 32MB occupying some portion of those slots, or do G3's have 32MB on the motherboard? If it's in the slots, how many are free and what are the possible RAM-upgrade possibilities? Am I correct in assuming that this is once again a one-RAM-chip-at-a-time scenario, as opposed to having reason or necessity for doing them in pairs? Question 3) How does PC emulation feel on these? Please do not cite outstanding benchmarks that don't translate into real user experience. The advance publicity from the early PowerPC days said SoftWindows (the old original 286-emulator version) would run on a PowerMac like "a slow 486" and 68K emulation would be "somewhere between a IIci and a slow Quadra", but SuperPaint and FileMaker 2.1 ran fine while SoftWindows sort of lurched along somewhat slower than my housemate's vintage 386-40. Then there were the 486 emulators and Windows95 and again various releases and revisions have claimed to attain the speed of at least a 486 on older PowerMacs like mine (supposedly running into Pentium-speed territory on 604s and such), but SoftWindows95 on this 7100 with no VM or RamDoubling is, as one PC user described it, "Wow, it's like if you could run Windows 95 on a 286, that's what it feels like". Under "normal" circumstances--30 to 40 MB RAM assigned to the PC emulator program, Mac Finder active and running, the usual couple rows of extensions and control panels, RAM Doubler set to FileMapping Only, PC screen filling a Mac 832 x 624 monitor, some low-requirement Mac programs like Nisus Writer and FileMaker Pro running concurrently--do you really get a non-annoying Windows95 in emulation on a G3 Mac? Question 4) I lost all my contact and inquiry info regarding the fate of Popup Folder in the process of adopting Eudora Light and ditching the internal email function of Netscape, due to the need to filter out spam. Could someone please forward me the address / name / latest word regarding the possible OS8-compatible upgrade to PopupFolder? Allan Hunter -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************