Ok these kdevel pkgs are tagged version 2 as in ver 2 of kdevel. We might have to rethink my taging system. All of these pkgs are compiled with flag for --without-java....so they may have limited development potential. Kde3.2 vers 1 pkgs are just that OSS, base SOHO4 pkgs with some added deps. KDE3.2 libs vers 2 pkgs are for developmental use. KDE3.2 libs vers 3 pkgs are ALSA but also have apidox compiled. KDE3.2 ver 2 pkgs for arts/base/multi are with ALSA KDE3.2 ver 2 pkg for PIM is base system with Mail bug-hot fix patch. KDE3.2 vers 2 Devel pkgs are w/o java. I hope this helps..... Robert